{"id":114,"date":"2014-04-29T23:36:37","date_gmt":"2014-04-30T06:36:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/?p=114"},"modified":"2014-04-29T23:37:13","modified_gmt":"2014-04-30T06:37:13","slug":"of-memes-and-memory-and-moores-law","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/index.php\/114\/of-memes-and-memory-and-moores-law","title":{"rendered":"Of Memes and Memory and Moore&#8217;s Law"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_115\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-115\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/memory_2005_to_2014.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-115\" src=\"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/memory_2005_to_2014-300x224.jpg\" alt=\"1000-fold more memory in the same device - but will it scale indefinitely?\" width=\"300\" height=\"224\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/memory_2005_to_2014-300x224.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/memory_2005_to_2014-600x450.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/04\/memory_2005_to_2014.jpg 650w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-115\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">1000-fold more memory in the same device &#8211; but will it scale indefinitely?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>A post has been making the rounds on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/woahdude\/comments\/23lsvu\/thats_a_lot_of_memory_for_a_fingertip\/\" target=\"_blank\">Reddit<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/AsapSCIENCE\/photos\/a.236720259792345.60296.162558843875154\/470199993111036\/?type=1&amp;stream_ref=10\" target=\"_blank\">Facebook<\/a>, graphically demonstrating\u00a0the 1000-fold increase in (flash) memory density over the last decade. The question is, will this scale indefinitely, even through 2024? After all,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.pcworld.com\/article\/127105\/article.html\" target=\"_blank\">look at how far we&#8217;ve come<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->I&#8217;ll posit this: a 128TB device 10 years from now might look the same from above, but it&#8217;ll likely be quite a bit thicker. Moore&#8217;s Law (such as it isn&#8217;t) is already breaking down at the transistor level, and as memory\u00a0cells get smaller they become more prone to &#8220;single event upsets&#8221; &#8211; bit flips caused by secondary particles from cosmic rays (though <a href=\"http:\/\/www.actel.com\/documents\/neutron_seu_faq.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">error-correcting coding helps [PDF]<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Then there&#8217;s the problem of heating &#8211; yes, you may make a little block with hundreds of terabytes of memory, but to use it takes energy, and write operations in particular are heat-intensive. And the more heat you have in a small space, the more chance you have for more random bit flips and other heat-related issues (<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Electromigration\" target=\"_blank\">electromigration<\/a>, etc.)<\/p>\n<p>Finally, there&#8217;s the problem of interfacing with this hypothetical <a href=\"http:\/\/semiengineering.com\/where-is-2-5d\/\" target=\"_blank\">2.5D chip stack<\/a> or 3D\u00a0device&#8230; the micro-SD card above uses <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Secure_Digital\" target=\"_blank\">anywhere from one to four pins total for\u00a0its data path<\/a>, and write speeds aren&#8217;t scaling dramatically (most of the speedup we see today in newer USB 3.0 devices seems to be in fan-out&#8230;\u00a0several devices in parallel being written to \/\u00a0read from at once).<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s not to say there won&#8217;t be\u00a0applications for such\u00a0a high-density device &#8211; particularly in <a href=\"http:\/\/home.web.cern.ch\/about\/computing\" target=\"_blank\">the scientific realm<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/2012\/06\/flash-data-centers\/all\/\" target=\"_blank\">the social- and mass-media space<\/a>. But\u00a0will they scale down to the consumer level, at today&#8217;s price points, with the reliability we&#8217;ve come to expect? I&#8217;m going to say no with a caveat &#8211; I think there will be far more interesting technologies and applications in 10 years, <a href=\"http:\/\/phys.org\/news\/2012-10-ferroelectric-memristors-brain-like.html\" target=\"_blank\">technologies that may necessitate new ways of looking at digital (and analog) memory<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a7\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.extremetech.com\/computing\/165331-intels-former-chief-architect-moores-law-will-be-dead-within-a-decade\" target=\"_blank\">An article citing Intel researchers<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a7\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/cartesianproduct.wordpress.com\/2013\/04\/15\/the-end-of-dennard-scaling\/\" target=\"_blank\">Another quick read\u00a0about Moore&#8217;s Law and Dennard scaling<\/a><\/p>\n<!-- wpsso rrssb get buttons: buttons on archive option not enabled -->\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A post has been making the rounds on Reddit and Facebook, graphically demonstrating\u00a0the 1000-fold increase in (flash) memory density over the last decade. The question is, will this scale indefinitely, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/index.php\/114\/of-memes-and-memory-and-moores-law\" class=\"more-link\">[&hellip;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"Layout":"","footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[107,85,108],"tags":[],"class_list":["entry","author-marty","has-more-link","post-114","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","category-commentary","category-electronics","category-science"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/114","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=114"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/114\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=114"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=114"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.falatic.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=114"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}